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bad 190E ignition switch causes AC to fail?
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mharness
2004-10-08 11:19:22 UTC
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Hello,

The AC stops blowing cold periodically but I can usually get it started by
turning the ignition switch off completely and then back on. Just turning
the AC itself off and on or changing any of the modes and settings will not
get it started. Is it possible that the cause is a faulty ignition switch
and if so can anyone suggest how I would go about replacing the switch (and
the tumbler--another problem)?

Many thanks,

Mike
Tiger
2004-10-08 13:55:29 UTC
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Yep, I had that problem... reason is worn weak spring on the ignition
switch. If you just turn the key back a bit more without shutting the engine
off, the A/C fan would kick on.

Ignition switch is done through the underdash... a real pain in the butt to
do. As for the tumbler, if you have problem turning on the key... then
change it asap!
mharness
2004-10-08 18:17:18 UTC
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Thanks Tiger.

The fan doesn't stop unless I turn the AC off--it's just the cooling that
stops. Still think it's the ignition switch? Do I need special tool to
replace the tumbler?

Mike
Post by Tiger
Yep, I had that problem... reason is worn weak spring on the ignition
switch. If you just turn the key back a bit more without shutting the
engine off, the A/C fan would kick on.
Ignition switch is done through the underdash... a real pain in the butt
to do. As for the tumbler, if you have problem turning on the key... then
change it asap!
Tiger
2004-10-09 00:43:18 UTC
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Just the cooling then I would double check your freon level... pressure
probably too low.
Christa4
2015-09-29 02:18:02 UTC
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replying to Tiger, Christa4 wrote:
I'm having this issue right now. I use to get the ac to function by turning
the key back slightly but now when I turn the key back slightly it doesn't do
anything. What is wrong?

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Tiger
2004-10-08 13:55:34 UTC
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Yep, I had that problem... reason is worn weak spring on the ignition
switch. If you just turn the key back a bit more without shutting the engine
off, the A/C fan would kick on.

Ignition switch is done through the underdash... a real pain in the butt to
do. As for the tumbler, if you have problem turning on the key... then
change it asap!
Martin Joseph
2004-10-08 20:06:07 UTC
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Post by mharness
Hello,
The AC stops blowing cold periodically but I can usually get it started
by turning the ignition switch off completely and then back on. Just
turning the AC itself off and on or changing any of the modes and
settings will not get it started. Is it possible that the cause is a
faulty ignition switch and if so can anyone suggest how I would go
about replacing the switch (and the tumbler--another problem)?
This doesn't sound like an ignition switch issue to me...

Seems more likely the AC is shutting off due to some pressure senser
reading and that turning the car off and on again is resetting this?

Just a thought.
Marty
Wan-ning Tan
2004-10-13 03:33:19 UTC
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If the problem can only be corrected by turning off engine, then it is
either worn/dirty/oily belt, or the tensioner is bad.

On W201 (and many other models around mid 80 to early 90), the accessory
belt is a single serpentine type. MB designs the AC relay to compare
the engine and compressor rpm. If it senses a difference of 30% (don't
remember exactly, may be lower), the relay cuts off the compressor
clutch, assuming the compressor seizes so it saves the belt to drive
other vital accessories (alternator, water pump, etc.). The logic only
re-engages the clutch after shutting off engine.
Post by mharness
Hello,
The AC stops blowing cold periodically but I can usually get it started by
turning the ignition switch off completely and then back on. Just turning
the AC itself off and on or changing any of the modes and settings will not
get it started. Is it possible that the cause is a faulty ignition switch
and if so can anyone suggest how I would go about replacing the switch (and
the tumbler--another problem)?
Many thanks,
Mike
mharness
2004-10-29 02:26:02 UTC
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May have discovered the problem with my AC--probably a bad AC control unit
or temperature relay. I have a used control unit coming from Potomac for
$75 and will find out soon enough if I'm right.

Thanks
Post by mharness
Hello,
The AC stops blowing cold periodically but I can usually get it started by
turning the ignition switch off completely and then back on. Just turning
the AC itself off and on or changing any of the modes and settings will
not get it started. Is it possible that the cause is a faulty ignition
switch and if so can anyone suggest how I would go about replacing the
switch (and the tumbler--another problem)?
Many thanks,
Mike
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